28/07/2008

  • My response to a Reformed Christian about crosses inside & outside of worship

    No, I believe that it would not be right (i.e, biblical) to use it to
    represent the Christian religion. The center of the Christian
    religion is Christ, and any representation of the Christian religion
    would be representing Christ though perhaps indirectly. There is no
    avoiding visibly representing the Christian religion without
    representing Christ. Also, most importantly, it goes back to the
    Regulative Principle and hence the sufficiency of Scripture as rule
    of faith and worship. If we can use the cross to represent the
    Christian religion (and Christ) to the world, then there must be
    warrant in Scripture either explicitly or by necessary inference.
    In Scripture, the only elements to represent the Christian religion
    (and Christ) are the visible Sacraments: Baptism and the Lord
    Supper, which are the Gospel set before our eyes. For that, we have
    Scriptural warrant; however, Scripture again sets forth how those
    Sacraments (and the signs/emblems in those Sacraments) are to be
    adminstered (when, by whom, and how). We don't have Scripture
    warrant apart from the administration of the Sacraments (by lawful
    ministers of God) to display such representative emblems willy-nilly
    to the world. Further we, are exhorted by Scripture to set our
    mines on things above, not on finite, corruptible things (eg,
    crosses, worldly treasure, etc.) below regardless of how "holy" or
    spiritiually significant they are. The word of the Gospel, its
    visible signs of the Sacraments, and its outward effect in our lives
    are the alone sufficent and alone biblicaly warranted means to
    represent the Chrisitian religion. We need no other means.

    Although the Reformers and their teaching are fallible and
    subordinate to Scripture, I don't think that in their godly lives or
    their congregation's lives one could find an example of their
    teaching or condoning the display of the Cross to represent the
    Christian religion.

    When I visited land of the Covenanters (the original Presbyterians)
    in 2006, I saw Glasgow Cathedral and other places where they tore
    down such symbols of Christ and Christianity to reform the Lord's
    Church back to pure, simple, Scriptural worship. I am sure that
    before such destruction of idols, there were both kinds of crosses
    (even the pagan celtic cross of my Papist and pagan Irish ancestors,
    the Papist non-empty cross, and the empty cross). They tore them
    down because it was not in accordance with or warranted by Scripture.

    To add to what Scripture warrants smacks of false religions (and
    especially the pride of sinful seeking to find positive signifance in
    his sinful state) especially Popery and Mormonism that always want to
    have a visible means apart from the Gospel and the Sacraments to
    represent Christ and Him Crucified.

    Therefore, my summary reason for not using the Cross for representing
    Christanity is that there is primarily no warrant in Scripture to do
    so and subordinate to Scripture, no evidence in the Reformers lives
    or teaching to condone such unwarranted practice. In other words,
    there is no evidence explicitly or by necessary inference to give
    warrant to such representative practice.

    If you think that there is Scriptural warrant to have the cross
    represent Chrstianity (and also therewith and inseparably, Christ),
    then please show us how Scripture would provide warrant.

    FCC&C,
    Whit _____
    Free Church of Scotland (Continuing), Communicant Member
    Washington Metropolis, DC

Comments (3)

  • He sticks to the regulative principle like glue (if I am not mistaken the Free Church of Scotland doesn't celebrate any Christmas(s) or Easter events (those from pagan roots, no musical instruments in their church services, and only the psalter? It has been a while since I have visited one.

    I really do appreciate what he wrote and his consistency.

  • @LooktoJesus - Yes, the Free Church of Scotland (Continuing) and, I believe, the other part of the Free Church do strictly adhere to the Regulative Principle of Worship.   That entails strict observance of the Sabbath, no instrumentation, the Book of Psalms as the only hymnbook, no "holy days", wine in the Lord's Supper, no choirs, and no crosses.   However, I am Covenanted Presbyterian, and my beliefs agree with 90% of the Free Church's beliefs and teaching.    I believe in Closed Communion, and the Free Church believes in Session-controlled Communion.  I believe in the perpetual and binding obligation of the Covenants without regard to colonial independence, and the Free Church (in addition to the RPCNA) does not.

  • The church that I belong to is a "sister" church to the Free Church of Scotland so our attestations go back and forth. We also have closed/supervised communion, etc. We have several books in our home about the Covenanters and I should start reading them again.

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